In this episode we will continue our discussion on the role that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit played in the theology of John Wesley. Our discussion will primarily focus on the different views that came along after Wesley and how they influenced groups of people to move away from the teachings of Wesley himself. The people we will primarily be focusing on will be Asa Mahan, Charles Finney, and Phoebe Palmer. We will also be discussing some differences between Wesley and his contemporary John Fletcher as well.
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Ready for some Pneumatology? In this episode we will be discussing the role of the Holy Spirit in Wesleyan theology. We will specifically focus on what role the Baptism of the Holy Spirit played in the theology of John Wesley. Did Wesley teach that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit was a "Second Work of Grace" or did the Baptism of the Holy Spirit take place during Regeneration? Listen to find out.
In this episode we will be discussing the eschatological views of John Wesley. Our conversation will primarily surround his Postmillennial views. Wesley held to a very powerful eschatology that helped set fire to a century of revival. What would the church look like today if it embraced Wesley's Postmillennialism? “Give me one hundred preachers who fear nothing but sin and desire nothing but God, and I care not a straw whether they be clergy or laymen, such alone will shake the gates of hell and set up the kingdom of heaven upon earth.” -John Wesley
"The Hope of a Christian World: Wesleyan Eschatology and Cultural Transformation" by Dr. Vic Reasoner
It is time to talk about the end of the world! In this episode we will jump into the topic of Eschatology or the study of the "end times." We will start off by discussing the four major Eschatological positions: Historic Premillennialism, Dispensational Premillennialism, Amillennialism, and Postmillennialism. We will then discuss the eschatological positions of Jacob Arminius and John Wesley. Don't miss next episode when we go more in depth in regards to Wesley's eschatological position.
What would it be like for Evangelical Arminians and Evangelical Calvinists to work together for the sake of the Gospel? What would it be like for us to see one another as brothers? What if we "agree to disagree" and then work together to advance the Kingdom of God like Wesley and Whitfield did? John Wesley was a "hair's breadth" from Calvinism while remaining very far from the liberal English "Arminianism" of his time. Modern Wesleyan-Arminians should occupy the same exact space. May we adopt Wesley's spirit in today's theological landscape. Calvinists and Arminians have legitimate differences that there is nothing wrong with discussing, but it is best to do so as brothers. In this episode we also discuss Wesley's use of Puritan sources and how he edited the works of Puritans to share with the Methodists. Listen to this episode and then please share it with your Arminian and Calvinist friends.
How significant are the differences between Calvinism and the theology of John Wesley? Wesley claimed it was only "a hair's breadth." Yet many modern day "Wesleyans" are trying to run as fast and far away from Calvinism as they can. In this episode we discuss how Wesley actually called doing this "foolish and sinful." Unfortunately running away from Calvinism has led many to question Inerrancy and deny important doctrine such as Penal Substitution and Meticulous Providence. In this episode we discuss the significant difference between Wesley and liberalized "Anglican Arminianism" and how he was much closer to the Evangelical Calvinists in his work for the Gospel.
"John Wesley, A Faithful Representative of Jacob Arminius" by W. Stephen Gunter
In this episode, we will continue our discussion on Inerrancy with help from an article by Dr. Vic Reasoner. We will start with a recap of Wesley's views and then discuss the current views on Inerrancy throughout the Wesleyan-Arminian tradition. We will then spend time discussing an article by Dr. Vic Reasoner titled, "Do (Wesleyan) Arminians Believe in Inerrancy?" You can find the link to this article below.
"Do (Wesleyan) Arminians Beleive in Inerrancy?" by Dr. Vic Reasoner
"The Importance of Inerrancy" by Dr. Vic Reasoner
In this episode, we will be discussing the inerrancy of Scripture and what Arminius and Wesley wrote about this question. There is a lot of debate in Wesleyan circles today regarding this question. In an attempt to shed some light on the issue we are going to see what Jacob Arminius and John Wesley thought about inerrancy. It may not be a surprise to you but both Arminius and Wesley held to a view of Scripture that today would be described as "inerrancy." We will be relying on primary sources from Wesley and Arminius to prove our point. Stay tuned for next episode when we will continue this conversation.
In this episode we will continue to discuss how legalism distracts Christians from true holiness. We will specifically focus on different regulations and rules that people are told they need to follow in order to be "holy." We will then look at what John Wesley thought regarding two specific things that groups tend to put regulations on: dress and alcohol. What were the views of Wesley on dress codes? Did he ever make a dress code for the Methodists? What were Wesley's views on alcohol? What were his thoughts on hard alcohol? What about beer and wine? You may be surprised what you find out in this episode. We will wrap things up with a discussion on Romans 14 and how love should guide our Christian liberties.
"Methodist Origins: John Wesley and Alcohol"
By Ivan Burnett, Jr.
In this episode we will be discussing how legalism distracts Christians from true holiness. Keeping in mind what was discussed in our last two episodes on Christian Perfection, we are going to discuss how legalism corrupts a true understanding of the doctrine of Perfect Love. But not only does legalism distract us from Perfect Love, it also leads us away from the Gospel. Of course, license or antinomianism is just as dangerous as legalism. We want to make it clear that John Wesley was not a legalist, he was concerned with the inner dispositions of the heart. Any external focus was always radically secondary to the state of the heart. We are going to jump into our discussion with a little help from Keith Drury. The article we look at is available on Seedbed.com. Find the link below.
"Nine Steps That Allowed Legalism to Distract Us from Holiness"
By Keith Drury
In this episode we will continue to discuss the doctrine of Christian Perfection from an Orthodox Wesleyan-Arminian perspective. We will be discussing three main points in this episode that surround one significant theme: Christian Perfection is "Imperfect Perfection." We will discuss how Christian Perfection is NOT "sinless perfection." We will also discuss how the differences between the Latin and Greek terms for "perfection" make everything more confusing. And finally, we will discuss the debate concerning whether this work is "instantaneous" or "gradual." We hope you come away from this episode with a better understanding of this controversial and often confusing teaching.
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In this episode we will be discussing the controversial teaching of Christian Perfection in an attempt to "de-mythologize" the doctrine. It is our conviction on Remonstrance that Christian Perfection (Perfect Love) is an important doctrine for the Church, as long as it is taught accurately and in accordance with Wesley's teaching. We will be approaching this doctrine from the perspective of what Wesley taught and not what those who followed him taught. Unfortunately many who claimed to teach this doctrine in his name actually ended up changing the doctrine into something he would have never supported. We spend most of the episode defining Christian Perfection (Perfect Love). The best definition is simply, "Love Excluding Sin." We distinguish Perfect Love from "Sanctification" and talk about other issues related to this doctrine. Along the way we receive help from T.A. Noble, Randy Maddox, and Kenneth J. Collins. In the next episode we will continue our conversation so stay tuned.